your blackberry? >> i think it will take some adjustment. i've been talking to colleague who left the government earlier. and the most common thing they say to me is, don't make any decisions. you have no idea how tired you are. and i think there's truth to that. >> for more on this, let's bring in gloria borger. why do you think secretary clinton is going through this round of interviews? is she trying to sort of cement her legacy? >> she is. look, she's in demand. obviously we all want the talk to her. she's someone who has a 65 approval rating. if you're thinking about a future in politics, doesn't get much better than that, so you might as well do these interviews now. i think she does want to cement her legacy, look, as jill pointed out in the piece, there clearly have been problems for her in benghazi and there's a worry that that could blot her legacy. >> this is not how she expected to leave the office? >> no, it really isn't. and it's not how the president really expected her to leave either, which is why he suggested that "60 minut